Hi, So I did eventually upgraded to new KDEPIM. When doing my upgrade I saw some "libkpimindent.*4" and more generally "libkpim.*4" things. I resolved to remove them for the sake of cleanness... Hence I had to remove "kopete" and hence kde-standard too. I understood kopete is something of the past (?); if so it could be removed from kde-standard: is kde-standard a Debian thing? Chris