On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:01:43 -0400 Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote: > On Saturday 11 April 2015 02:39:47 Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:46:36 -0400 > > > > Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> wrote: > > > On Friday 10 April 2015 10:28:36 Curt wrote: > > > > There is something else to try: > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key > > > > > > I have occasionally tried that, (when I can remember it) has not > > > worked yet, for me, even with a wired keyboard. That is something > > > that distro compilers building kernels for their disto, seem to > > > have a delight in disabling/ignoring. > > > > > > This particular keyboard has not such a marked key. White > > > logitech K360. > > > > On most keyboards it is marked "Print Screen", or some shortening > > thereof. Or do you have a small keyboard without such a key? > > > > Petter > > That is an alternate logo resembling Prnt Scr on the home key in some > cross of tan & orange, whch when you look appears to be a function of > holding down the "FN" key, labeled in that same color between the > right alt and and right Ctrl keys. Presumably to be used as a shift > key to bring the orange/brown logos on the other keys into play? I would think so. Just yesterday I got a new keyboard, a Razer Blackwidow. While it is a "gaming" keyboard, it is actually very comfortable. It also has a FN key, which is used as a modifier to extend the functionality of the function keys. It is presumably the same on your keyboard. However, I remember seeing machines (mostly laptops) where the FN key only worked in Wintendo. > The FN key on every other keyboard I own is a alternate action switch > key, toggling the F# keys in and out of existance, but not on wheezy. > Or this keyboard. TBD which. "To Be Determined" for those that need > the acronym lookup wiki. > > Q:Do we have any docs that show how this is supposed to work? > A:Not that I can find. > > Q:Does wheezy by default install a tool that shows these keys and > allows the user to remap/unmap a key? > A:No. I had to find that package using google, then install it. I did a quick search here, and found this: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Keyboards-and-Keyboard-Mice/K360-FN-key-assignments/td-p/960481 Don't get excited, though :) It seems you need a Wintendo tool to configure them, something called "SetPoint". I do not know whether you could use that to configure the keys and the settings would be stored in the actual keyboard, more likely the software stores the settings in a file and enables them on every boot. But you could always try running it in Wine and see? > And when that combo is pressed right now, ksnapshot pops up with a > snapshot of the screen about 3 seconds later. So it looks as if that > bit of magic has been pre-empted for something else on wheezy. Which > genius decided that? I would not think SysRq has been remapped, I would guess that you are not pressing the correct key combination - look at the Wikipedia page. From what I remember, it is SysRq + Alt + <key for the function you want) - + Ctrl if you are in X. In addition to those, you would probably also need to press the FN key, so that would be a real exercise in finger dexterity :) > People blindly reassigning key functions, who haven't a clue even if > they were free, have already created a key hunt it took me months to > find by their reassignment of the F10 key, which historically has > been the quit key for mc. So that turns quitting mc into a 3 or 4 > clicks of the mouse operation when its been that single keystroke for > an instant quit since 1997! Made triply insulting by whoever added > that damned "are you sure" requestor. If I didn't want to quit mc, > then why the heck did I press the F10 key? Some terminals (I'm looking at you, gnome-terminal!) have F10 mapped to open the menu, which obviously don't work well with mc, among other things. It can usually be disabled. In mc, you can press F9, o, o and you will get a menu where you can configure when mc will ask you for confirmations. Uncheck "Exit", go back to the "Options" menu and select "Save setup" - it will not bother you again :) I grew up with Norton Commander, so mc has always held a special place in my toolbox :) > Very good question that... Question of the year maybe. > > Thanks Petter. I seriously doubt any of this rant was caused by you. I hope not :) > You have always wanted to help and I appreciate the help you've > tendered. Thank you, Gene. I hope you find some of this helpful, too. At least you can now get rid of that pesky "Are you sure?" box :) > But as a long time linux user, pushing 18 years now, I feel like the > "oh look, a pony" crowd has been discharged from the asylum and been > given free reign over what linux does for key press X. Thankfully, most software for Linux is configurable, so key-bindings etc can usually be set to something sane. > Seriously, there needs to be a published standard for non > alphanumeric key functions, with a first commandment of "thou shalt > not reassign these standard keys" displayed in 72 point type at the > top of the page. :-) Have a good one, Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive."
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