Re: Joey Hess is out?
On 8 November 2014 16:48, Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> wrote:
> "David L. Craig" <dlc.usa@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote:
>>
>>> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is
>>> chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be
>>> bothered to set up a test server.
>>>
>>> And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get interminable
>>> political games and good people quitting the project.
>>>
>>> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the
>>> whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD?
>>
>> That comes across as someone who believes in not letting
>> a good crisis go to waste. However, your opinions about
>> this DD's motivations are exceptionally wide of the mark
>> given he said nothing about non-DD influences and did
>> point to changes in the structures and interactions of
>> DDs exclusive of non-DDs. In other words, this is bogus
>> opinion (spin), not factual reporting.
>
> Joey's reasons for leaving are his own.
Absolutely
> His prior posts to debian-devel
> though included exasperation and despair at actually getting threats for
> his pro-systemd stance,
Ridiculous. There are some idiots out there.
> so I think I am not unreasonable to suspect that
> that played a role.
>
Possibly, no-one likes a poisonous atmosphere (I have worked in some,
paid work mind you, and left as soon as I could).
Mr Hess has stated in the original email that he had reservations
about the Debian Constitution all those years ago. He has also posted
mailing list messages expressing concern about *volunteer* developers
being required to do work that they do not see a need for and about
the GR process being used to make technical decisions in this case.
As I think is characteristic of Mr Hess's way of working, his concern
is with the *process* rather than taking a 'side'.
We need to work from examples and bugs rather than from grand sweeping
statements. You may not approve of 'whiners', but you will I assume
accept (sensible, non political/contrived) bug reports?
> Mart
>
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Cheers
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Keith Burnett
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