Re: Wheezy/Xfce Gnome keyring problem [Solved]

[Paul E Condon <pecondon@mesanetworks.net>]

On 20131231_221413, Reco wrote:
>  Hi.
> 
> On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:11:26 -0700
> Paul E Condon <pecondon@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
> 
> > > Ok, now it is starting to get interesting. gnome-keyring by itself is a
> > > process which should store user credentials. gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so is
> > > a library that (judging by name) is called by PolicyKit and is linked
> > > to a gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so.
> > > 
> > > About the only reason that justifies storing user credentials if one
> > > prints with CUPS is that unlikely case that one configures CUPS instead
> > > of it. So, the message is harmless, and can be ignored.
> > > 
> > > Still, something is calling gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so, and that leaves us
> > > libgnome-keyring0.
> > > 
> > > Can you post the output of 'aptitude why libgnome-keyring0' please?
> > > 
> > > Reco
> > 
> > root@big:~# aptitude why libgnome-keyring0
> > i   gnome-disk-utility Depends libgnome-keyring0 (>= 2.22)
> > 
> > I think I use disk-utility when formatting new disks to extN from
> > Windows whatever. Does this indicate that I must choose between
> > removing garbage warning messages and having a GUI disk utility 
> > pre-installed for occasional use?
> > I hope not.
> 
> Well, in be it another utility, I'd suggest you to rebuild it without
> libgnome-keyring dependency. But - since this is GNOME-disk-utility, I
> doubt such rebuild will be possible.
> 
> I never understood the need of GUI for formatting (mkfs is all I ever
> need for this), so I cannot suggest you the replacement, sadly.

I'm learning about the complexity engendered by having Xwindows as
part of the user interface in the beautifully simple structure of
traditional Unix.  I think I use gnome-disk-utility only to verify my
work. Now that I have a much better understanding of the nature of my
problem (thanks to you), I think I can accept reality and learn to
live with it.

Thanks.

> 
> As an experiment, please remove libgnome-keyring0 (should take out
> gnome-disk-utility as well), try to print something.

I used the interactive interface to aptitude to investigate removing
libgnome-keyring0. It offered many ways of accomplishing this goal,
all of them involving many removals and installs of other packages,
even suggesting install of many kde packages. This is not a path to
simplifying my life.

I still think there might be a better way to get a functioning Xfce
system than the one I have already, but I know I can't contribute much
at all to discovering it.

My lingering fear is that lightdm will be dropped in jessie and the
only display manager offered might be gdm3, which will boot into
Gnome3. I think I cannot ever accept Gnome3. It appears to be a clone
of Apple Mac which deliberately obfuscates the internal workings of a
computer instead of merely ad hoc muddling through as is done by
Windows.

>  To revert the change, invoke 'apt-get install gnome-disk-utility'.
> Reco

Thanks, and Happy New Year
-- 
Paul E Condon           
pecondon@mesanetworks.net