On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:39:54 -0500 Mike McCarty wrote: >Chris Metzler wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:19:12 -0400 >> Hal Vaughan wrote: >> >>>And that proves even more that you are not volunteering your time >>>unless you get something for it. That's not volunteering. >>>Volunteering is giving without expecting a ROI. >> >> >> This is fiction. Everyone who volunteers gets a return on their >> investment; without it, they wouldn't volunteer. That "return" >> may not be in some sort of traditional form like cash, goods, or >> services; but if the volunteer absolutely truly got nothing out >> of it -- no sense of satisfaction, no gladness at having been >> able to help another, absolutely nothing -- then there is nothing >> to drive the volunteer towards that activity as opposed to another. > > That isn't what he was responding to. The term the IRS uses is > "intangible benefit", I believe. But what he referred to was > the specific point made that what was built was built specifically > because the builder/implementer found it useful himself, and > for no other reason. By any definition, this is not volunteer > work. Allowing others to use the results is a bonum, yes, perhaps > even a mitzvah, but not volunteer work. I understood that. My exception was merely with the portion quoted, which I think goes beyond what you say above, and what was the point of the majority of Mr. Vaughan's reply to Manoj. -c -- Chris Metzler cmetzler@speakeasy.snip-me.net (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear
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