I just updated everything I have but now when I try to telnet into my machine I get a connection closed by host. I checked inetd.conf and found in.telnetd, other than that I'm not sure what could be wrong. Other things work eg sendmail. Any ideas?????? Jason Killen Question Stupidity Monolith : driven by inner daemons RPS : better living through world jkillen@tinuviel.cs.wcu.edu domination