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Client L2TP - pb avec network-manager-l2tp



debian 11
bureau gnome

J'utilise habituellement openvpn.
J'ai besoin d'un client L2TP/IPsec.

J'ai installé le paquet network-manager-l2tp (qui installe notamment strongswan).

Quand j'utilise le menu VPN settings et que je fait ajouter (+) un L2TP, j'ai l'erreur
   Error: Unable to load VPN connection editor

C'est exactement le pb signalé ici, qui parle de versions de gtk3 avec laquelle ça fonctionne mais pas avec gtk4 :
https://github.com/nm-l2tp/NetworkManager-l2tp/issues/186
J'ai gtk2 et 3 et peut-être des bouts de 4 installés, apparamment (voir dpkg -l | grep gtk en pied de message).

Est-ce un problème connu ?
Comment le régler ?

En dépannage urgent, quel client en CLI me permettrait une connexion à ce serveur vpn en l2tp ?
Il y aurait une solution avec xl2tpd ou/et openswan mais je ne l'ai jamais utilisée.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Openswan_L2TP/IPsec_VPN_client_setup

Merci.

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$ dpkg -l | grep gtk
ii  gir1.2-gtk-2.0:amd64                                        2.24.33-2                        amd64        GTK graphical user interface library -- gir bindings
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0:amd64                                        3.24.24-4+deb11u3                amd64        GTK graphical user interface library -- gir bindings
ii  gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0:amd64                                    1.0.0-1                          amd64        GObject introspection data for GTK-VNC
ii  gir1.2-gtkchamplain-0.12:amd64                              0.12.20-1                        amd64        Gtk+ widget to display maps (GObject introspection)
ii  gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0:amd64                                 1.8.4-4                          amd64        GObject introspection data for the GTK+ Clutter library
ii  gir1.2-gtksource-3.0:amd64                                  3.24.11-2                        amd64        gir files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  gir1.2-gtksource-4:amd64                                    4.8.0-1                          amd64        gir files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  gir1.2-_javascript_coregtk-4.0:amd64                          2.40.3-2~deb11u1                 amd64        _javascript_ engine library from WebKitGTK - GObject introspection data
ii  gir1.2-spiceclientgtk-3.0:amd64                             0.39-1                           amd64        GTK3 widget for SPICE clients (GObject-Introspection)
ii  gstreamer1.0-gtk3:amd64                                     1.18.4-2+deb11u2                 amd64        GStreamer plugin for GTK+3
ii  gtk-sharp2                                                  2.12.40-3                        all          GTK# 2.10 suite, CLI bindings for GTK+
ii  gtk-sharp2-examples                                         2.12.40-3                        all          sample applications for the GTK# 2.10 toolkit
ii  gtk-sharp2-gapi                                             2.12.40-3                        amd64        C source parser and C# code generator for GObject based APIs
ii  gtk-update-icon-cache                                       3.24.24-4+deb11u3                amd64        icon theme caching utility
ii  gtk2-engines-pixbuf:amd64                                   2.24.33-2                        amd64        pixbuf-based theme for GTK 2
ii  ibus-gtk:amd64                                              1.5.23-2                         amd64        Intelligent Input Bus - GTK2 support
ii  ibus-gtk3:amd64                                             1.5.23-2                         amd64        Intelligent Input Bus - GTK3 support
ii  libavahi-ui-gtk3-0:amd64                                    0.8-5+deb11u2                    amd64        Avahi GTK+ User interface library for GTK3
ii  libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64                                0.30-7                           amd64        translates GTK+ widgets signals to event sounds
ii  libcanberra-gtk0:amd64                                      0.30-7                           amd64        GTK+ helper for playing widget event sounds with libcanberra
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-0:amd64                                    0.30-7                           amd64        GTK+ 3.0 helper for playing widget event sounds with libcanberra
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-module:amd64                               0.30-7                           amd64        translates GTK3 widgets signals to event sounds
ii  libchamplain-gtk-0.12-0:amd64                               0.12.20-1                        amd64        Gtk+ widget to display maps
ii  libcheese-gtk25:amd64                                       3.38.0-3                         amd64        tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - widgets
ii  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0:amd64                                  1.8.4-4                          amd64        Open GL based interactive canvas library GTK+ widget
ii  libcolord-gtk1:amd64                                        0.1.26-2                         amd64        GTK+ convenience library for interacting with colord
ii  libdbusmenu-gtk3-4:amd64                                    18.10.20180917~bzr492+repack1-2  amd64        library for passing menus over DBus - GTK-3+ version
ii  libdbusmenu-gtk4:amd64                                      18.10.20180917~bzr492+repack1-2  amd64        library for passing menus over DBus - GTK-2+ version
ii  libgnome-autoar-gtk-0-0:amd64                               0.2.4-3                          amd64        GTK+ widgets for the GNOME Autoar library
ii  libgtk-3-0:amd64                                            3.24.24-4+deb11u3                amd64        GTK graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-bin                                                3.24.24-4+deb11u3                amd64        programs for the GTK graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-common                                             3.24.24-4+deb11u3                all          common files for the GTK graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-dev:amd64                                          3.24.24-4+deb11u3                amd64        development files for the GTK library
ii  libgtk-vnc-2.0-0:amd64                                      1.0.0-1                          amd64        VNC viewer widget for GTK+3 (runtime libraries)
ii  libgtk2.0-0:amd64                                           2.24.33-2                        amd64        GTK graphical user interface library - old version
ii  libgtk2.0-bin                                               2.24.33-2                        amd64        programs for the GTK graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk2.0-cil                                               2.12.40-3                        amd64        CLI binding for the GTK+ toolkit 2.12
ii  libgtk2.0-cil-dev                                           2.12.40-3                        amd64        CLI binding for the GTK+ toolkit 2.12
ii  libgtk2.0-common                                            2.24.33-2                        all          common files for the GTK graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk2.0-dev:amd64                                         2.24.33-2                        amd64        development files for the GTK library
ii  libgtk3-perl                                                0.038-1                          all          Perl bindings for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtkmm-3.0-1v5:amd64                                      3.24.2-2                         amd64        C++ wrappers for GTK+ (shared libraries)
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-1:amd64                                3.24.11-2                        amd64        shared libraries for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-common                                 3.24.11-2                        all          common files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-dev:amd64                              3.24.11-2                        amd64        development files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-4-0:amd64                                  4.8.0-1                          amd64        shared libraries for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-4-common                                   4.8.0-1                          all          common files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview2.0-0:amd64                                 2.10.5-3                         amd64        shared libraries for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview2.0-common                                  2.10.5-3                         all          common files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview2.0-dev:amd64                               2.10.5-3                         amd64        development files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtkspell3-3-0:amd64                                      3.0.10-1                         amd64        spell-checking addon for GTK+'s TextView widget
ii  libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18:amd64                           2.40.3-2~deb11u1                 amd64        _javascript_ engine library from WebKitGTK
ii  liblibreofficekitgtk                                        1:7.0.4-4+deb11u7                amd64        GTK3 widget wrapping LibreOffice functionality
ii  libreoffice-gtk3                                            1:7.0.4-4+deb11u7                amd64        office productivity suite -- GTK+ 3 integration
ii  libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5:amd64                             0.39-1                           amd64        GTK3 widget for SPICE clients (runtime library)
ii  libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64                                  2.40.3-2~deb11u1                 amd64        Web content engine library for GTK
ii  libwxgtk3.0-0v5:amd64                                       3.0.4+dfsg-8                     amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64                                  3.0.5.1+dfsg-2                   amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK 3 runtime)
rc  lightdm-gtk-greeter                                         2.0.8-2                          amd64        simple display manager (GTK+ greeter)
ii  monodoc-gtk2.0-manual                                       2.12.40-3                        all          compiled XML documentation for GTK# 2.10
ii  python3-wxgtk4.0                                            4.0.7+dfsg-10                    amd64        Python 3 interface to the wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit
ii  qt5-gtk-platformtheme:amd64                                 5.15.2+dfsg-9                    amd64        Qt 5 GTK+ 3 platform theme
ii  software-properties-gtk                                     0.96.20.2-2.1                    all          manage the repositories that you install software from (gtk)
ii  transmission-gtk                                            3.00-1                           amd64        lightweight BitTorrent client (GTK+ interface)
ii  xdg-desktop-portal-gtk                                      1.8.0-1                          amd64        GTK+/GNOME portal backend for xdg-desktop-portal
ii  xdg-user-dirs-gtk                                           0.10-3                           amd64        tool to manage well known user directories (Gtk extension)




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