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Bug#1024493: Proposed-RM: bs1770gain -- RoQA; inappropriate content



my few cents: the problem with censorship is, once you start, the rabbithole is infinite.
Whatever shitty homepage or comment it is, eventually it's just a homepage or comment.
I think debian-devs should not be going down the rabbithole of scanning all code for 'bad' words, bad images, suspicious logos etc, as the creativity of humans in infinite too..
The reactive path also plays in the hands of those activists (expect "debian turns out to be ran by X" youtube vids).

kind regards

Leon (and hi if we haven't met yet)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:12 PM Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> wrote:

Personally I find the story of Daryl Davis inspiring, and believe such
approach have higher chances of success than one using contempt and
rejection.

<URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis >
<URL: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes >

The Homepage URL is a statement of fact about a package, ie its origin
and where users can check out the upstream information.  It is also
useful to track down upstream if it move in the future.  It is not a
useful marketing channel, but can improve search engine ranking slightly
due to its use within Debian.  I believe the advantages of machine
readable links to the package origin outweigh any improved search
ranking, as I believe the latter is very minuscule.

If I understand the objections about the code, it is about the strings
'#WLM' and 'Nanos gigantum humeris insidentes.'.  The former seem to be
a reference to 'white lives matters', a sad reaction to the 'black lives
matter' movement that have gained traction the last few years[1], and
the latter is a reference to a cristian quote initially from Bernard of
Chartres, according to wikipedia[2], and later made more known by Isac
Newton.  As I see it these strings have no operational function for the
software and I have no attachment to them whatsoever.  I understand that
the objections is regarding believed intent behind the strings.  I do
not see any point in spending time discussing them, and thus removed
them from the binary.  In my opinion they have no marketing or
promotional value in the source, so I see very little gain from taking
the extra work to repack the tarball with these 9 lines from the source
code

 [1] <URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Lives_Matter >
 [2] <URL:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants >

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Happy hacking
Petter Reinholdtsen



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