Re: Obtaining and installing...
Neil Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:53:32 +0100
> Neil Stone <neil@flashtek-uk.com> wrote:
>
>
>> It seems the documentation is somewhat broken..
>>
>
> Documentation can always be improved but we need some idea of which
> bits need fixing and which areas are causing misinterpretations.
>
>
one example;
http://emdebian.org/release/grip/c425.html
"For the first installation method you'll need to download an installer
image from the netboot directory (at the location mentioned in ) and"
mentioned in where ??
>> do I presume that I
>> use a normal Debian install media and point it at emdebian.org at the
>> right moment or is there some other method ?
>>
>
> That is one option, yes - for devices that can run the normal Debian
> installer, typically something that can boot from removable media and
> can (at least initially) use a standard, vanilla, Debian kernel.
>
> Other installation methods are outlined on the Grip installation page:
>
> http://www.emdebian.org/grip/
>
> The problem with documenting this in detail is that once you get away
> from being able to use the Debian Installer, things get very
> complicated quite quickly. It is highly device specific.
>
> e.g. One other installation method is to create a complete root
> filesystem using multistrap to provide the core packages and adding
> further customisation. At such times, a Grip installation can be a part
> of whatever is the normal installation method for that device.
>
Now you're talking my language, just need to work out how..
>
>> Either way I have a bit of a challenge as I want to use this on a
>> TS-7550 ARM based SBC, its only IO is via USB ports (2 of) or eth0.
>>
>
> It depends more on how the device currently boots.
>
Currently it boots from onboard flash to an initrd, then once that exits
it boots Lenny.. that's how it is shipped from the supplier.
>
>
>> I have a way to get standard Debian on to these systems, but I would
>> prefer to save the space and get to emdebian.. is that do-able ?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
How ?
> Also, if there is a different way of installing which could be less
> hassle than using the Debian Installer (DI), Grip could fit into that
> method too.
>
>
>> if
>> yes, can anyone point me at a HOWTO (change sources.list and run
>> dist-upgrade ??) ?
>>
>
> There are issues with the Debian Installer for Lenny which we hope to
> fix for Squeeze but, yes, complete the install, boot the device, change
> the sources list, apt-get update, apt-get install grip-config, apt-get
> dist-upgrade.
>
> That middle step (installing our own little helper package) gets over a
> few hurdles which *have* been fixed for Squeeze.
>
> Grip is at version 1.0 with Lenny and there are rough edges.
>
> If there are things you'd like to see in the docs, feel free to use the
> Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian
>
what changes are needed to sources.list ? I think I will likely head
that way at first due to the systems shipping with Lenny in situ (i
might try a jump to squeeze at some point).
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